I ran 8:48 1.5 mile. Probably could run 5:00-5:30 mile and run 2:15-2:30 half a mile. It is not the best. Deadlifted 405 at 150 lbs 5'11" and one armed deadlift 282 ramping it up(but failed at lockout). Did 12 pullups with 50 lbs at the end of a workout. took a combat class overwhelmed kids my size in submission with brute force and ignorance which is not safe and un-recommended and isn't saying much because they were my size. We were the same in experience and size. I can still rep the CoC two with no training. I have 117 cholesterol and my family doesn't have a history of good cholesterol. My heart rate is lower then when I was swimming. Not paying attention it got down to 42. My bf is around 12 %. Sounds high but I am not a bodybuilder. 31 years old
As far as age...
I watched a 48 year man in 65 kg weight class out perform a 20 year old Russian (109-110? jerks against 103) so the age correlation is difficult. I will say this. You develop a base that is somewhat easy to come back to. The higher you get though, the harder it is to come back but it is still easier to come back then the first time around. But I don't know if that is knowledge based or physiological or both.
Scientific sort of One of the tests is hooking up an oxygen mask to measure how many calories are consumed during and after. Supposedly it is somewhat accurate. There is a human performance study in the AF with kettlebells, the first of its kind. Its public information.
Testing 1.5 mile run push ups/sit ups grip endurance Vo2 max with treadmill/oxygen mask.
My own take on application of kettlebells to sports
Mechanics of explosive elements of lifting of maximal and submaximal
I was able to recover barely with one light set a day and worked up to several in a day after about 6 months. I increased my ability to recover in general from consistency of strength-endurance with kettlebells. General physical prepared-ness or GPP.
If I had to directly compare kettlebells to carrying over to a sport it would be wrestling and or crew. Lot of similar movement and energy systems.
I suspect the muscle fibers used primarily are the type IIA, not the type II(fast twitch) or type I(slow twitch) when doing strength-endurance. Also note, the range of motion in the jerk is the same as oly lifting in depth of legs. The only time a deep squat is required is for a clean or a snatch. Also note that jumping in volleyball or basketball or any jumping the depth of the squat prior to the jump. I suspect it is similar to the depth of the squat required for jerk. The motion is different slightly and differs at running vs standstill.
It had been explained to me that Elite athletes in oly lifting take .9 seconds to execute a snatch. Thats why I don't buy into "more explosive" with the same poundage. More explosive implies more speed with same mass. You either execute it with speed or without. What makes it seem "faster" could be a number of things such as reduced ROM aka 9 o clock snatches or simply frame.
How kettlebells may help Strength athletes???
I can see them helping strength athletes actively recover(indirectly).
The best measure of an athlete is the ability to recover
I was once told that an endurance athlete in biking does not dominate the runner and vice versa by a PHD in physiology. Since Kettlebells work different muscles they too would help but I notice based on the combat instructors commentary that the superb runners(faster then me) were winded after 45 seconds on the mat when it came to submissions.
I suspect MMA requires strength-endurance quite a bit more then we realize. Take a fighter and train him on some of the fitness protocols(GPP) in addition to his training and see. It would be interesting. This also brings me back to my statement that strength-endurance is its own thing.
More studies need to come about with kettlebell athletes (Valery's level or almost his level).
Those of you curious I want impart a few things about this test. For it to really work we need everyone training the same things to get an accurate picture and have the same background.
Since I'm considered a kettlebell purist by a few I'll impart my experiences. This is what I believe based on my experiences to be the case.
Comparing a press to a jerk in this test is a flawed logic.
Here is why.
Simple, I'm not training the press. I real test would be to train a kettlebell press to figure out how that would apply to barbell. Now let me delve deeper? What is more functional? a Press or a Jerk?
What is more athletic in the requirement? If I had a fighter what would I train him with if it was one or the other? Which is healthier on shoulders? I'm not sure press is my first choice. I would still incorporate it but I have to talk to a trainer about that;)
I haven't done a heavy dead lift in forever but I can see some carry over. However, I still would recommend deadlifting to get better at deadlifting.
Here is the entire situation, not realizing strength-endurance as its own category and trying to fit the mold of testing strength or endurance.
If your argument is military press with a barbell then do kettlebell presses and see the results. Not kettlebell jerks.
The non inflammatory question is trying to point out a weakness in only doing jerks and snatches for time in the press.
Of course there are weaknesses!
One is explosive and one is not relative to each other. You do not want to press more by doing jerks alone or snatches alone for that matter :D
I'm acknowledging that they don't do everything and thats the problem with variety in this country. We try to incorporate everything and become experts at nothing. I don't mind coming out and saying outright that I would not be able to press 135 for a boatload of reps. However, if I had pressing in my diet that would be something interesting. Also look at the different lifters bodytypes You need an unbiased category of newbies with the same weight and dimensions.
Do I mind trying the test? No. I can do it but whats the point? Its not a right and wrong but a frame of reference.
Thank you for reading and don't hesitate to ask questions!