Wednesday, April 29, 2009

a More scientific look


Physiolocial adaptation personally

I know this is not scientific

I ran 8:48 1.5 mile. Probably could run 5:00-5:30 mile and run 2:15-2:30 half a mile. It is not the best.
Deadlifted 405 at 150 lbs 5'11" and one armed deadlift 282 ramping it up(but failed at lockout).
Did 12 pullups with 50 lbs at the end of a workout. took a combat class overwhelmed kids my size in submission with brute force and ignorance which is not safe and un-recommended and isn't saying much because they were my size.
We were the same in experience and size. I can still rep the CoC two with no training.
I have 117 cholesterol and my family doesn't have a history of good cholesterol. My heart rate is lower then when I was swimming. Not paying attention it got down to 42. My bf is around 12 %. Sounds high but I am not a bodybuilder.
31 years old

As far as age...

I watched a 48 year man in 65 kg weight class out perform a 20 year old Russian (109-110? jerks against 103) so the age correlation is difficult. I will say this. You develop a base that is somewhat easy to come back to. The higher you get though, the harder it is to come back but it is still easier to come back then the first time around. But I don't know if that is knowledge based or physiological or both.

Scientific sort of
One of the tests is hooking up an oxygen mask to measure how many calories are consumed during and after. Supposedly it is somewhat accurate. There is a human performance study in the AF with kettlebells, the first of its kind. Its public information.

Testing 1.5 mile run
push ups/sit ups
grip endurance
Vo2 max with treadmill/oxygen mask.

My own take on application of kettlebells to sports

Mechanics of explosive elements of lifting of maximal and submaximal

I was able to recover barely with one light set a day and worked up to several in a day after about 6 months. I increased my ability to recover in general from consistency of strength-endurance with kettlebells. General physical prepared-ness or GPP.

If I had to directly compare kettlebells to carrying over to a sport it would be wrestling and or crew. Lot of similar movement and energy systems.

I suspect the muscle fibers used primarily are the type IIA, not the type II(fast twitch) or type I(slow twitch) when doing strength-endurance. Also note, the range of motion in the jerk is the same as oly lifting in depth of legs. The only time a deep squat is required is for a clean or a snatch. Also note that jumping in volleyball or basketball or any jumping the depth of the squat prior to the jump. I suspect it is similar to the depth of the squat required for jerk. The motion is different slightly and differs at running vs standstill.

It had been explained to me that Elite athletes in oly lifting take .9 seconds to execute a snatch. Thats why I don't buy into "more explosive" with the same poundage. More explosive implies more speed with same mass. You either execute it with speed or without. What makes it seem "faster" could be a number of things such as reduced ROM aka 9 o clock snatches or simply frame.

How kettlebells may help Strength athletes???

I can see them helping strength athletes actively recover(indirectly).

The best measure of an athlete is the ability to recover

Endurance

I was once told that an endurance athlete in biking does not dominate the runner and vice versa by a PHD in physiology. Since Kettlebells work different muscles they too would help but I notice based on the combat instructors commentary that the superb runners(faster then me) were winded after 45 seconds on the mat when it came to submissions.

I suspect MMA requires strength-endurance quite a bit more then we realize. Take a fighter and train him on some of the fitness protocols(GPP) in addition to his training and see. It would be interesting. This also brings me back to my statement that strength-endurance is its own thing.

More studies need to come about with kettlebell athletes (Valery's level or almost his level).

3 comments:

U. S. Military Kettlebell Competitions said...

Marty,
How much do you run? What is a typical daily diet for you? I have found that kettlebells help my recovery a lot when doing anaerobic work. Where can we find the results of the USAF KB study?
S/F
Greg

john_harshman said...

I don't know if you remember me. You were my coach at the bellingham cert in April '08. I'm an exercise science grad student and did my own little research with the bell. While hooked up to a metabolic cart I jerk/push press a 16kg bell for 1 hour. 1,420 reps later the read out stated that I burned 12.5 kcal/min during that whole time. My advisor told me that would be the equivelant of someone my size (6'3", 245) running 7.5 miles an hour (not to mention the smaller upper body muscles that would be used vs. the larger, lower counterparts).

John

john_harshman said...

I don't know if you remember me. You were my coach at the bellingham cert in April '08. I'm an exercise science grad student and did my own little research with the bell. While hooked up to a metabolic cart I jerk/push press a 16kg bell for 1 hour. 1,420 reps later the read out stated that I burned 12.5 kcal/min during that whole time. My advisor told me that would be the equivelant of someone my size (6'3", 245) running 7.5 miles an hour (not to mention the smaller upper body muscles that would be used vs. the larger, lower counterparts).

John